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Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« on: July 08, 2018, 06:46:37 PM »
Good afternoon all, I've never really been interested in bikes until recently when I came across the FB Mondial hipster 125.

I decided to look at what I need to do in order to get a licence and get out on the road on one of these bikes. I've checked my car driving licence and it states on the back I have A code, but I've never done any motorbike riding or done a Cbt. I passed my car test in 2003, and as I understand it I would need a Cbt, but why do I have the A code already on my licence? Dose it mean I can ride any bike without further test?

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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2018, 08:08:26 PM »
Your A will only act as a provisional if you have a valid CBT.

P or AM is for 50cc mopeds, which depending on when you passed your test you may be able to ride without CBT. Personally speaking if you have never ridden before I really do recommend doing a CBT even if you intend to ride a 50 and nothing else ever ( which you will have to do if you have not done one anyway and want to ride a 125cc)

a 125cc bike is fab, for about 2 weeks, then you will wish you had something bigger. And this is coming from the resident small bike nutter who has an armada of 49cc bikes and loves small capacity bikes.  Believe me its no fun trying to overtake a lorry on the motorway on a 125cc ( which you cant do on L plates *ahem*).

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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2018, 08:36:50 PM »
Womble is right. The 125 is the start of a slippery slope into the dark recesses of motorcycle ownership.
An alternative route would be to attend a motorcycle instruction course for direct access into a full license.
This means you use their bikes to train and practice on and achieve a full motorcycle license in a matter of days. Providing you are over 25.
A 125 feels quick at first until reality kicks in. For similar money a lot of larger capacity bikes are then available to you.
Yes it's a larger amount to shell out compared to just CBT. The bonus is you escape the massive devaluation of a 125 motorcycle.
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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2018, 09:57:52 PM »
Thanks for the replys.

I don't travel very far unless I'm taking children out. I'm really only looking for something for 20 mile round trips. But I guess I'll want to explore sooner. But I've only seen the mondial that I like not seen anything else. Also any opinions on what riding instructors to look at?
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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2018, 10:35:10 PM »
Where in East Lancs are you?

Iím in Accrington.

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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2018, 08:28:57 AM »
The direct access courses are great if you know you want to ride something bigger eventually.
But if you just want something for nipping about on, then a 125 would be fine. As has been said you will need to do the CBT, ask at the bike dealer, as they will know local instructors. And maybe even do a deal in with buying the bike.

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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 03:17:56 PM »
+1 on DAS

Ive got a full licence and can ride owt, but for a while I used to be the same ( even after I passed my test and rode a Plag 90) a small bike is OK for a local plod, but for anything longer or on a fast A road I really would recommend you use something larger ( a 500 or 600 should suffice for the time being) The trouble with the CBT too is its time limited and I think you only get three renewals before you have to do your test or stop riding ( dunno, its all got a bit complicated the bike test, back in the day you just rode around a bit on a 125 then jumped straight on a Thou and went through the first hedge on a bend you found). Thing is once you start riding it really is the start of a slippery slope.

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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2018, 04:08:09 PM »


back in the day you just rode around a bit on a 125 then jumped straight on a Thou and went through the first hedge on a bend you found). Thing is once you start riding it really is the start of a slippery slope.

Brilliant made me chuckle.

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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2018, 07:17:09 PM »
Many better start getting stuff priced up. All the clober can't be cheap.

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There is some decent gear available for not too much money.

Basics are helmet, gloves, boots, jacket and trousers. I'd take a look at Ghostbikes at Preston. They have a couple of their own brands such as Black and Agrius. And are pretty helpful in the shop too.

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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2018, 09:37:52 PM »
Welcome to the forum  :)


I'm really only looking for something for 20 mile round trips.

I use my push bike for that kind of mileage  ::) :)
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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2018, 10:19:42 PM »
Thanks for the replys.

I don't travel very far unless I'm taking children out. I'm really only looking for something for 20 mile round trips. But I guess I'll want to explore sooner. But I've only seen the mondial that I like not seen anything else. Also any opinions on what riding instructors to look at?
Plenty of options with a full license.
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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2018, 12:31:24 PM »
Thanks for the replys.

I don't travel very far unless I'm taking children out. I'm really only looking for something for 20 mile round trips. But I guess I'll want to explore sooner. But I've only seen the mondial that I like not seen anything else. Also any opinions on what riding instructors to look at?
Plenty of options with a full license.
Thanks,
But I've not seen another bike that makes me want to ride other than the hps 125. I believe they a 300 will be released late this year, but from what I've seen it doesn't look at good as this.

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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2018, 12:08:29 AM »
One has just popped up on Clitheroe buy and sell Facebook page, asking £1890.
Still don't think its as pretty as the little Ducati though.

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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2018, 08:35:56 AM »
Nice pictures tomcat but I would not go initially for a bike that is to powerful and one that can get a newbie  into trouble right from the start.  Even back to biking bikers get into trouble   due in part to a lack of experience and knowledge and  unfortunately choosing  such a machine,.  I believe one should get a good grounding in a suitable bike for a while and then with knowledge and experience one could climb up the ladder to a suitable but more powerful machine. 

I know that one can get into trouble with bikes of any size and its the state of mind of the rider that counts but the power that one has has to used properly otherwise it easy to fine oneself in trouble due to a combination of inexperienced and  power. One cannot just take a car drivers state of mind to motorcycling.   That is a recipe for rouble.

There are many bikes out there now that are under 500 cc and still have  great capacity for most of what one wants either to commute or bimble around the country roads or to even go touring on so I would look at a smaller capacity bike at first and get some experience down the road so to speak and then decide on increasing to something bigger if necessary or if one wants to.
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Re: Hello from East Lancashire from very newbie!

« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2018, 10:01:00 AM »
Nice pictures tomcat but I would not go initially for a bike that is to powerful and one that can get a newbie  into trouble right from the start.  Even back to biking bikers get into trouble   due in part to a lack of experience and knowledge and  unfortunately choosing  such a machine,.  I believe one should get a good grounding in a suitable bike for a while and then with knowledge and experience one could climb up the ladder to a suitable but more powerful machine. 

I know that one can get into trouble with bikes of any size and its the state of mind of the rider that counts but the power that one has has to used properly otherwise it easy to fine oneself in trouble due to a combination of inexperienced and  power. One cannot just take a car drivers state of mind to motorcycling.   That is a recipe for rouble.

There are many bikes out there now that are under 500 cc and still have  great capacity for most of what one wants either to commute or bimble around the country roads or to even go touring on so I would look at a smaller capacity bike at first and get some experience down the road so to speak and then decide on increasing to something bigger if necessary or if one wants to.
Whoa. the guy hasn't yet undertaken cbt yet alone passed his test. The last bike I added details of is 125cc, 12hp.
I'd included the earlier photo's demonstrating the genre of bikes the chap has displayed an interest in. The Triumph is 50hp, about the same as a 500cc motorcycle.
The other, the Ducati is 75hp. both bikes are available in 48hp, A2 licence variants. 250cc machines are available with much greater performance.
I was initially informing him of direct access training. A far higher level of training than normal licence access routes.
If you want to lose the most money. Buy a 125cc motorcycle new. Depreciation is frightening. Which was my point initially.
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